The Website of Carlos Whitlock Porter

LETTER NO 16

R. J. COPELAND ON "THE CHEMISTRY OF THE HOAXOCO$T"

(WITH COMMENT BY GERMAR RUDOLF)

Dear Mr Porter,

I would like to respond objectively to some of the questions posed in your essay The Chemistry of the Holoco$t [sic]. 


[COMMENT: The "terminus technicus" is Hoaxoco$t: a hoax that costs plenty.-C.P.]

I have a double first in Natural Sciences from Cambridge, so I know what I'm talking about.

COMMENT: I am very happy to hear that, and I am very glad to meet you.-C.P.]

The active ingredient in Zyklon B is Hydrogen Cyanide (HCN), not a cyanide salt like NaCN or KCN. 

[COMMENT: You misunderstand me. Did I say Zyklon B was a salt? On the contrary: it was Mosche Perlmann, a Jew, in his book, THE CAPTURE AND TRIAL OF ADOLF EICHMANN, p. 375, 385. HE said it was a salt, specifically, potassium cyanide. Josef Kramer is also quoted as claiming to have gassed people with a "salt"; see below.-C.P.]

HCN can indeed be prepared by the reaction of acid with such a salt, as is used in executions in some US states, but is also easily stored ready-made. 

[COMMENT: That is true; it has an extremely short shelf life; that is the only problem.-C.P.]

In Zyklon B, liquid HCN is absorbed into an inert solid substrate (the granular diatomite which gives the characteristic colour) under suitable conditions of pressure and temperature. This is a matter of convenience; it serves to dilute the chemical and make it easier to handle. 

[COMMENT: It also slows the evaporation rate and makes it less dangerous to human beings. This was one of the principal reasons for absorbing the liquid into the solid substrate in the first place.-C.P.]

HCN is a gas at room temperature (boiling point 25 C), but evaporation from the substrate is easily prevented by storing it in a sealed container, as with a flask of liquid nitrogen for example. Thus the colloquial description of Zyklon B as crystallised Hydrogen Cyanide, while not strictly accurate [!], is not far from the truth.

COMMENT: The fact remains that it was not "crystallized Prussic acid", nor was it a "crystal". A crystal has a definite symmetrical structure. Cyanide "crystals", if I recall correctly, are chemically different and react differently. HCN is a colourless liquid which evaporates as a poison gas, paralyzes the sense of smell, and penetrates walls. Potassium cyanide is a white semi-solid, semi-crystalline salt, but not a true crystal. It looks exactly like crude sea salt. If you drop potassium cyanide into acid, you get poison gas. There are true "crystals" of cyanide-- some of the "double cyanides" -- some of which are not even poisonous. One of them is blue. If you drop it into acid, you get laundry bluing. It's not the same. People who believe that these things happened have a responsibility to describe them in terms that make sense. If you are reading a crime story and somebody says "I spun the cylinder on my .45 automatic", or "I pulled back the slide on my .38 revolver", or "I used a sawed-off shotgun equipped with a telescopic sight", you know that something is wrong. When I began this research 25 years ago I believed in the Hoaxoco$t; all I wanted to know was how it happened, but I found nothing that made sense.-C.P.]

If Zyklon B were poured into a gas chamber from holes in the ceiling, the solid substrate would fall to the floor. The HCN would then begin to evaporate, with some delay as the molecules diffused out of the solid matrix. This is a physical process; there would be no need for any chemical reaction. 

[COMMENT: Did I say a chemical reaction was necessary? Perhaps you are referring to the "confession" of Josef Kramer, commandant of Belsen, no doubt in an "affidavit" written by a German-Jewish-American army officer ignorant of chemistry. I have said that "the chemical reactions described in Holocaust literature are wrong and all contradict each other." That is still true. The evaporation rates and ventilation times described are also impossible.-C.P.]

That HCN is less dense than air is irrelevant, 

[COMMENT: I agree with you.-C.P.]

not because it would actually be rising from the ground, but because it would penetrate the entire volume of a closed space through diffusion anyway. Oxygen, Nitrogen and Carbon Dioxide have different relative masses, but air does not spontaneously separate into layers of its constituent parts. 

[COMMENT: Perhaps that is why Dr. Nyzsli and others described people "climbing on top of each other to escape the "rising layers of gas", which were presumably visible and moved horizontally, then vertically, like sewer water filling a basement. If they could see it, what colour was it? See my article THE UNRELIABILITY OF DOCUMENTS IN J.C-PRESSAC'S TECHNIQUE AND OPERATION OF THE GAS CHAMBERS.-C.P.]

The substrate itself would not evaporate.

[COMMENT: Did I say it would?-C.P.]

The toxicity of HCN is well documented. As you mentioned, between 60-100mg is a fatal dose, so we would need somewhere in the region of 200g to kill 2000 people. 

[COMMENT: That is 60-100 mg absorbed into the system, and more accurately refers to poisoning by mouth: it is the amount absorbed into the system. "Gassings" require greater quantities. How much, depends on the temperature, humidity, volume of space, and above all, the TIME. You cannot "gas" a person with 60 mg on the floor 10 feet away. I am surprised that I cannot get intelligent people to understand this. Fortunately, the revisionist movement does not depend on my deficient and imperfect efforts; see the RUDOLF REPORT.-C.P.]

This would assume ideal conditions, so call it a full 1kg.

[COMMENT: Germar Rudolf assumes 6-10 kg. The problem is the evaporation rate, temperature, humidity, and above all, the TIME. 200 g of HCN could certainly kill 2000 people if one were to wait long enough. Also, you've forgotten the other properties of Zyklon, better discussed by Faurisson, Leuchter, Rudolf, and Lüftl.-C.P.]

A finely dispersed solid can easily absorb a large proportion of its mass in liquid - between a 6th or a 3rd would not be unusual. 

[COMMENT: Diatomaceous earth absorbs up to 5 times its weight in liquid.-C.P.]

Therefore it would be entirely feasible to carry out such a killing by dropping fine crystals with a mass equivalent to 6 bags of sugar into a sealed and confined space. 

[COMMENT: The problem is the evaporation rate, temperature, humidity, time, how to get rid of the gas afterwards, how to remove the bodies a few minutes later without poisoning yourself, how to cremate millions of people in 52 ovens (according to Vailliant-Couturier) or holes in the ground dug in a swamp, etc. etc. ad infinitum.-C.P.]

Naturally, one would not use such a lethal material as a domestic pesticide

[COMMENT: That is precisely what it was used for, by the Finnish Army, among others, even during WWII. It continued to be used until about two years ago under the trade name Cyanocil, and was manufactured at Weyer's Cave, Virginia USA. The advantage is that it was equally effective against warm and cold-blooded animals, adult insects, larvae, and eggs, but left no residue or unpleasant taste or smell, and was thus suitable for the fumigation of foodstuffs and tobacco. This is why the irritant was removed during the war: the irritant left a smell or taste.-C.P.]

, but this proves nothing because it would be a simple matter to reduce the potency dramatically by using a much, much lower ratio of HCN to substrate. 

[COMMENT: Or just less Zyklon.-C.P.]

And yes, it would be quite safe to pump the gas into the air outside because the vastness of the atmosphere would ensure rapid dilution. 

[COMMENT: I agree with you, nevertheless this is not the way things were done. The procedure was to fumigate for 6 - 32 hours, ventilate the building thoroughly for at least 24 hours, and keep everyone at least 5 meters away from the building during this entire time. The purpose of safety procedures is to avoid industrial accidents caused by carelessness. You can be careless for years, and maybe nothing will happen. But somebody somewhere someday will have an accident. One such (non-fatal) accident during the fumigation of a barracks is described in a letter by Rudolf Hoess. The "pumping" is not such a simple matter either; see the RUDOLF REPORT. The gas is first neutralized by ammonia. American gas chambers have a chimney.-C.P.]

This is why cyanide gas is not practical for mass killing in concentrations less than that required to cause instant death. 

[COMMENT: Instant death by "gassing" appears to be "instant" in theory only; Caryll Chessman took 13 minutes to die.-C.P.]

Your quote from a 1922 encylopedia obviously refers to a First World War battlefield scenario, not a gas chamber.

[COMMENT: The point is that the toxicity of HCN is dependent upon its concentration in the air, which is not such a simple matter. See Julius Meyer, DER GASKAMPF UND DIE CHEMISCHEN KRIEGSTOFFE, Leipzig, 1925; see also the very interesting article in the 1938 Enciclopedia Italiana, GAS, ASFISSIANTI.-C.P.]

I do not have the necessary sources to comment on some of your other claims regarding the myth of the Holocaust, but if your ill-informed and spuriously reasoned essay is at all representative, they are not worth a bag of shit. 

[COMMENT: The humble and much-maligned substance disparagingly known as "shit" is useful for all kinds of things; for example, you can make explosives out of it. You can also make explosives out of urine, as was done by the Confederacy during the War Between the States. You can even make explosives out of air, as the Germans theoretically attempted to do during WWI; all you have to do is extract the nitrogen, convert the nitrogen into nitrates, and whammo! Would the same people gas millions of people with Diesel exhaust or insecticide?-C.P.]

If you are genuinely interested in the truth, you will either demonstrate the flaws in my arguments 

[COMMENT: I see no flaws in your arguments, except that you attribute to me statements made by Jews entirely ignorant of chemistry. 20 years ago, the Jews didn't even know what Zyklon was; today they write complicated articles based on revisionist research to "prove" that the revisionists are wrong! If the Jews are so smart, why didn't they get it right in the first place?-C.P.]

or withdraw your article. 

[COMMENT: I would withdraw it, because it is 23 years old, and Leuchter, Rudolf and Lüftl -- not to mention many other people far better qualified than myself -- have done a much better job of discussing the same problems; but it shows how I became a revisionist. It says so at the end. Can't you read?-C.P.]

I await your response with interest.

Yours etc,

RJ Copeland

5 NOVEMBER 2000 [GUY FAWKE'S DAY! Any relation to David Copeland, the London bomber?-C.P.]


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FINAL COMMENT: 

If Mr. Copeland is "genuinely interested in the truth", perhaps he will "demonstrate the flaws" in the following, or "withdraw his belief" in the Hoaxoco$t: 

[For people who always look at the answers before doing a puzzle in a magazine, I have indicated some of the "flaws" below; this was the judgement which, as I wrote in "NOT GUILTY AT NUREMBERG", proved the existence of a total of 10 steam, gas and electrical death chambers, in the same camp, at the same time". Actually one would need a computer to figure out how many gas and steam chambers there were, or where. The Jewish judge has also got his concentration camps all mixed up.-C.P.]

Judgement, Trial of Oswald Pohl, January 13, 1947-August 11, 1948, "Green Series", NMT V, pp. 1126-1139: Concurring judgement of Judge Michael A. Musmanno: 

World War II, shattering every record for destruction, damage, turbulence, and death, eclipsed all known calculations also in the transportation of human freight. Never in any decade, or perhaps century, were there such mass migrations of human beings as occurred between 1939 and 1945. This vast movement was not limited to the armed forces. Civilian populations travelled as they never did before. Europe became a nomadic continent. Refugees, workers, slaves, laborers, captured peoples crossed frontiers and entered new horizons in a kaleidoscopic travelogue of misery and degradation that has no parallel even in fiction.

In describing the horrors experienced by the wretches transported to Auschwitz [!!!] for extermination, the Polish investigation commission declared that they were subjected to such cruel suffering of body and soul that, "death in the steam [!!!] chambers must have come almost as a welcome relief." (XVIII/31, Doc. 3311-PS.) 

[COMMENT: See "Steam Chambers" under "Index to Book".-C.P.]

Transport was the name given to movement whether the travel was by vehicle, or on foot. When travel was by land, as many as 130 persons were placed in cattle or freight cars, and in wintertime no extra clothing was allowed for the journey. In one group of 4,500 men and 500 women who moved from Monowitz to Nordhausen in January 1945, a trip lasting 8 days, only twice were the prisoners given food which consisted of one-half loaf of bread and 106 grams of meat. Space was so tight that the weak and the sick were smothered by their own comrades when they sat down. Upon arrival at their destination, between 1,000 and 1,300 of the travellers were dead.

On 3/8/1945, 2,000 prisoners were taken from Nordhausen to Bolkenberg, a 10-day trip by wagon and foot for which they were given 3 days’ food. Only 1,000 arrived alive. (VI/ 89, 2222-PS.)

The commandant of Buchenwald concentration camp, Hermann Pister, declared in an affidavit taken at Dachau on 2/3/1947:

"Transports from the East arrived most of the time in open boxcars, so that out of a transport with a total strength of 1,200 prisoners 300 arrived already dead in the Buchenwald CC, while the rest were merely skeletons. This happened frequently, and I found out that the transports were sometimes on the way for 4 weeks. In most cases, no advanced notice was given about these transports." (III/122, Doc. NO-2327.) 

Gerhard Schiedlausky, physician at this same camp related:

"Each of these transports was met at the Buchenwald railway station by a group of personnel charged with the care of the inmates as well as by all available vehicles such as hand carts, carts and trucks to pick up the inmates who were no longer able to walk and to bring them to the bathing installations. Others were dragging along painfully supporting each other. There were cases when inmates who, to be bathed suddenly, collapsed and died under the shower. I remember one transport where among about 2,000 inmates, 460 of them were unloaded dead. The hospital chief reported to me about the fate of these arrivals and told me that within the next few days hundreds more of them died regularly. (XXI/4, Doc. NO-2332.)

Kurt Gerstein described the arrival of a 45-car train at Auschwitz [!]. Of the 6,700 passengers who had boarded the train, 1,450 arrived already corpses. (XVIII/49, Doc. 1553-PS.) It often happened that prisoners arrived in a debilitated condition but not yet too far gone to be saved. However, Gerhard Wiebeck declared in this connection:

"I had the impression that the SS men and those prisoners helping in unloading the other prisoners were anxious to see those who were still alive die, just to save themselves work." (XXI/31, Doc. NO-2331.)

Victor Abend testified that when he was transferred from Schoebnik to Auschwitz, he travelled in a freight car so crowded that it was practically impossible to lie down, that it carried no drinking water, nor did it have toilet facilities. The trip lasted 4 days during which time they were given no food.

The United States Congressional Committee, inspecting Dachau, found a train of cars which had been used to bring prisoners into the camp:

"These cars were an assortment of odd boxcars, some of which could be locked, and some were the coal-car type. In each of them the floor of the car was covered with dead, emaciated bodies. In some of the cars there were more than enough to cover the floors. In size, these cars were of the small European type, which, when used for the movement of troops, would never accommodate more than 40 men. Nevertheless, the army officials in charge of this camp advised us that there were 50 of these cars in this one train and that at least 100 of these civilian prisoners had been jammed into each car locked in and they had been on the road for several days without food or water, and that approximately 3,000 of them were dead upon arrival and most of the others were in a dying condition. We saw many dead bodies on the ground. These prisoners had apparently crawled out of the cars and had died on the ground." (VI/78, Doc. 159.)

Then there was the unique protest on the part of concentration camp commandants that between 5 and 10 percent of the Russian prisoners of war sent in to be executed arrived already half dead or dead altogether. Further, that on the hike between the railroad station and the camp, many collapsed from sheer exhaustion. The commandants complained that this state of affairs was very embarrassing because "the civilian population takes notice of these happenings." (V/176, Doc. NO-91.)

When one comes to write on this subject the ink runs heavy, the words falter, and a sadness akin to a hopeless resignation enters the soul. How can one write about a planned and calculated killing of a human race? It is a concept so completely fantastic and so devoid of sense that one simply does not want to hear about it and is inclined to turn a deaf ear to such arrant nonsense. Barbarous tribes in the wilds of South Pacific jungle have fallen upon other tribes and destroyed their every member; in America, Indian massacres [!] have wiped out caravans and destroyed whole settlements and communities [!]

[COMMENT: Better not say that today, it's not "politically correct"; also, it's "NATIVE AMERICANS", thank you very much-C.P.]; 

but that an enlightened people in the 20th century should set out to exterminate one by one, another enlightened people, not in battle, not by frenzied mobbing, but by calculated gassing, burning, shooting, poisoning is simply blood-curdling fiction, fit companion for H. G. Well’s chimera on the invasion from Mars [!].

[COMMENT: Certain passages from "The War of the Worlds" and "Doctor at Auschwitz -- deleting the words "Martians" and "kapos" -- are in fact very similar; so much so that Nzysli appears to have been partially inspired by Wells.-C.P.]

Adolf Eichmann. chief of the Jewish section of the Gestapo, estimated that the Hitler-Himmler extermination policy of the Jews resulted in the liquidation of 6,000,000 Jews, of which 4,000,000 were killed in extermination institutions. The murder of 6,000.000 human beings is entirely beyond the capacity of man’s imagination and one instinctively refuses to believe. But the curtain of incredulity has lifted and the armor of incomprehensibility no longer protects. The evidence is in and what was utter fantasy and a mere macabre playing with numbers, is proved fact. The figure 6,000,000 is written in digits of blood, and no matter which way one turns their crimson horror is upon one. Still, the cumulative shock of 6,000,000 dead is not felt unless one attends a murdering party of a small fraction of that ungraspable number. The great mass of the killings was done in gas [!] chambers. Let an eye witness describe the operation of a gas [!] chamber in Auschwitz [!!!]:

"In 10 minutes the first train will arrive! And indeed, a few minutes later the first train came in from Lemberg [Lvov]. Forty-five cars, containing 6,700 persons; 1,450 of whom were already dead on their arrival. Behind the little barbed-wire openings, children, yellow, scared half to death, women, men. The train arrives: 200 Ukrainians, forced to do this work, open the doors, and drive all the people out of the coaches with leather whips. Then, through a huge loudspeaker instructions are given: to undress completely, also to give up false teeth and glassessome in the barracks, others right in the open airto tie one’s shoes together with a little piece of string handed everyone by a small Jewish boy 4 years of age, hand in all valuables and money at the window marked ‘Valuables’, without bond, without receipt. Then the women and girls go to the hairdresser, who cuts of their hair in one or two strokes, after which it vanished into huge potato bags ‘to be used for special submarine equipment, door mats, etc.’, as the SS Unterscharführer on duty told me. Then, the march begins: right and left, barbed wire, behind, two dozen Ukrainians with guns. Led by a young girl of striking beauty they approach. With Police Captain Wirth, I stand right before the death chambers. Completely naked they march by, men, women, girls, children, babies, even one-legged persons, all of them naked. In one corner, a strong SS man tells the poor devils, in a strong deep voice, ‘Nothing whatever will happen to you. All you have to do is to breathe deeply, it strengthens the lungs; this inhalation is a necessary measure against contagious diseases, it is a very good disinfectant! Asked what was to become of them, he answered, ‘Well, of course the men will have to work, building streets and houses. But the women do not have to. If they wish to, they can help in house or kitchen.’ Once more, a little bit of hope for some of these poor people enough to make them march on without resistance to the death chambers. Most of them, though, know everything, the odor has given them a clear indication of their fate. And then they walk up the little staircase and see the truth! Mothers, nursemaids, with babies at their breasts, naked, lots of children of all ages, naked too; they hesitate, but they enter the gas [!] chambers, most of them without a word, pushed by the others behind them, chased by the whips of the SS men. A Jewess of about 40 years of age, with eyes like torches, calls down the blood of her children on the heads of their murderers. Five lashes into her face, dealt by the whip of Police Captain Wirth himself, chases her into the gas [!] chamber. Many of them say their prayers, others ask: who will give us the water for our death. Within the chambers, the SS press the people closely together; Captain Wirth had ordered: ‘Fill them up full.’ Naked men stand on the feet of the others. Seven to eight hundred crushed together in 25 square meters [!], in 45 cubic meters! [!!!] The doors are closed. Meanwhile the rest of the transport, all naked, wait. Somebody says to me ‘Naked, in winter! But they can die that way!’ [...] The answer was, ‘Well, that’s just what they are here for!’ And at that moment I understood why it was called, ‘Foundation Heckenholt.’ Heckenholt was the man in charge of the Diesel [!] engine, the exhaust gases of which were to kill these poor devils. SS Unterscharführer Heckenholt tries to set the Diesel [!] engine moving. But it does not start! Captain Wirth comes along. It is plain that he is afraid because I am a witness to this breakdown. Yes, indeed, I see everything and wait. Everything is registered by my stopwatch. Fifty minutes, seventy minutes the Diesel [!] engine does not start! The people wait in their gas [!] chambers. In vain. One can hear them cry. ‘Same as in a synagogue,’ says SS Stürmbannführer, Professor Dr. Pfannenstiel, Professor for Public Health at the University of Marburg/Lahn, holding his ear close to the wooden door. Captain Wirth, furious, deals the Ukrainian, who is helping Heckenholt, 11 or 12 lashes in the face with his whip. After 2 hours and 49 minutes as registered by my stopwatch the Diesel [!] engine starts. Up to the moment the people in the four already filled chambers were alive, 4 times 750 persons in 4 times 45 [!] cubic meters. Another 25 minutes go by. Many of the people, it is true, are dead at that point. One can see this through the little window through which the electric lamp reveals, for a moment, the inside of the chamber. After 28 minutes only a few are living. After 32 minutes, finally all are dead! From the other side, Jewish workers open the wooden [!] doors. Like stone statues the dead are still standing, there having been no room to fall or bend over. Though dead, the families can still be recognized; their hands still clasped. It is difficult to separate them in order to clear the chamber for the next load. [...] Two dozen workers are engaged in checking the mouths, opening them by means of iron hooks. ‘Gold to the left, without gold to the right!’ [...] Dentists with chisels tear out the gold teeth, bridges, or caps. In the center of everything, Captain Wirth. He is on familiar ground here. He hands me a large tin full of teeth and says, ‘Estimate for yourself the weight of gold! This is only from yesterday and the day before yesterday! And you would not believe what we find here every day! Dollars, diamonds, gold! But look for yourself!’ " (Doc. 1442-PS.) [!!!]

Who wrote this sleep-robbing horror, this unspeakably mournful tale? A Jew, a Pole, a non-Aryan? This view into one of the deepest furnaces of hell was written by an SS Lieutenant, Kurt Gerstein, attending at the execution because of his technical knowledge on poison gases and his familiarity with the technique of sterilization of clothing of deceased persons.

Rudolf Franz Ferdinand Hoess, commandant at the Auschwitz concentration camp from 5/1/1940 to 12/1/1943, must stand out individually as the greatest mass murderer in history. His eminence in wholesale slaughter? his distinction in multiplicitous killing, his supremacy in systematic massacre, must dwarf the fame of all killers from the beginning of time. In comparison to Hoess, Genghis Khan was a Sunday school boy, Torquemada an entertaining Micawber, and Ivan The Terrible, an innocuous, benevolent, old man. With complete self-assurance, Rudolf Hoess declared under oath that he personally supervised the executions at Auschwitz until 12/1/1943, and he estimated that up to that time, 2,500,000 prisoners were, "executed and exterminated there in the gas [!] chambers and crematories."

"At least a further half million people died from hunger and sickness, which adds up to a total amount of about 3,000,000 deaths. This figure represents about 70 or 80 percent of all persons who were sent to Auschwitz as prisoners. The remaining were picked out and used for slave work for the industries located in and surrounding the concentration camp."

Going into the details on this carnage, Hoess explained how he used a crystallized Prussic acid which was thrown into the death chambers through a small opening:

The older extermination camps, Belsec, Treblinka, and Wolzek [!!!] 

[COMMENT: Wolzek never existed-C.P.]

had used monoxide gas. To exterminate 1,500 people between 5 and 7 cans of one kilo each of Zyklon B were required in cold and humid weather."

Zyklon B gas [!] was also used. Hoess calculated that during the time he was at Auschwitz, 10,000 cans had been purchased for this lethal use:

"This figure is arrived at by computing the number of 21/2 million gassed people and the consumption of an average of 6 cans for every 1,500 people."

Not all the Jews arriving at Auschwitz were executed. Those who seemed strong, healthy specimens were permitted to work. The selection could scarcely be called a scientific one. As the prisoners came off the transport a Hauptsturmführer looked at them cursorily, and, with a movement of his right or left hand, indicated respectively death or life. A slight movement of the right hand and the newcomer was sent on his way to the gas [!] chambers; a flick of the left hand and the newly arrived prisoner lived to agonize, and probably later die in a work gang. (XI/6, Doc. NO-199.)

All youngsters under 16 years of age, all mothers with children and all those sick or weak were taken to the gas [!] chambers. (XXI/26, Doc. NO-268.)

What happened to the doomed ones is described by one who witnessed the operation:

"In Auschwitz there were 4 crematories, of which 1 and 2 were the large ones, and 3 and 4 the small ones. Upon their arrival at the crematory, the SS ordered these people (men, women, and children) to jump from the trucks and when this order was not obeyed fast enough, they were beaten with sticks and whips. The SS also had police dogs at their disposal which they set on these people. After being unloaded they were all obliged to undress entirely in the dressing room, and no difference was made between men and women. When they were undressed they were taken into the gas [!] chamber, which was underground in the crematories 1 and 2. These gas [!] chambers looked like large bathrooms [!]; they were tiled [!], provided with shower bath installations, which, however, were not connected with the water supply. When all the people were in the gas [!] chambers the outside doors, which were gas-tight, were closed SS Hauptsturmführer Mengele, Tilo, and Klein, and their assistants, the noncommissioned officers of the medical service of the Waffen SS, threw cans of HCN gas [!] through small barred windows [!] into the gas [!] chambers, after which the windows [!] were closed gas tight. After 3 or 4 minutes no sign of life appeared anymore from these gas [!] chambers, in which in this manner a concentration of one hundred percent was obtained. After a security limit of ten minutes [!] the gas [!] chambers were aired and the doors opened. The corpses of the men, women, and children, murdered in this horrible manner, were carried away from the gas [!] chambers by the Kommando, the so-called ‘Sonderkommando,’ consisting exclusively of Jews and taken to the furnaces where they were totally burnt by pairs. The possessions of these people were declared State property at the station. The clothes were transported to Germany, after being sorted and distributed among Germans who had lost their belongings through air raids. However, the SS men stole much of this ‘confiscated’ property for their own use or to be used as means of payment on the black market." (XI/39, Doc. NO-1949.)

Heinrich Neumann, an inmate of Auschwitz, stated that in his estimation between 1940 and 1944 four million were executed and that, on certain days, the deaths reached the number of 20,000. (XI/79, Doc. [?]

The United States Congressional Committee which inspected concentration camps in April 1945, reported on the facilities for killing which they found at Dachau [!]. The gas [!] chamber there was built of concrete, measured 20 by 20 feet, with a ceiling of some 10 feet in height. The supply of gas [!] was controlled by means of two valves [!] on the outer walls, and beneath the valves was a small glass-covered peephole through which the operator could watch the victims die, 100 to a gassing. Flanking the gas [!] chamber were two warerooms measuring approximately 30 by 50 feet:

[COMMENT: See my article "THE GAS CHAMBER AT DACHAU: NOW YOU SEE IT, NOW YOU DON'T", and various other articles on Dachau. No Dachau trial ever "proved" the existence of a gas chamber at Dachau. The report on the gas chamber at Dachau written by Col. David C. Chavez of Albuquerque New Mexico was never introduced into evidence at Dachau, but was taken right over to Nuremberg 6 weeks later and introduced into evidence, even it was perfectly well-known that it was not true.-C.P.] 

"At the time we visited the camp these warerooms were piled high with dead bodies. In one of the rooms the bodies were thrown in an irregular heap. In the other room they were neatly stacked like cordwood. The irregular pile of bodies was perhaps 10 feet high, covering most of the floor space. All of them were naked. It was quite evident that the daily death rate at Dachau, by execution and otherwise, far exceeded the daily capacity of the crematory to dispose of the bodies. The stench indicated that some of them had been there for several days." (VI/79, Doc. 159.)

In the spring of 1942 an extermination camp was established at Treblinka. It contained 10 death chambers and opened up for business in the early autumn of 1943. Death was inflicted here by gas [!] and steam [!!!], as well as by electric current [!!!]. Behind the death building, and separated from the rest of the camp, stood the barracks and kitchen for the grave diggers. But as the executions grew in numbers mass graves were dug out by motor-driven machines and not by hand and shovels as in the beginning.

[COMMENT: See "Electrical Chambers" and "Steam Chambers" under "Index to Book".-C.P.]

While the actual execution operation was handled by the SS, the menial services had to be performed by the inmates themselves.

"The unloading of the trucks, stripping of the victims, and sorting out of their clothes and shoes (Lumpensortierung), the emptying of the death chambers and the burying of the bodies. When a new transport arrived some of the Jews were picked out to do this work so long till they broke down morally under the impression of this organized and mechanized mass murder. Then they had to dig their own graves and take up their position at them, whereupon they were shot one by one by Sauer, personally. Their last duty before dying was to push the body of the preceding victim into its own grave. (XVIII/30, 31, Doc. 3311-PS.) [...] All victims had to strip off their clothes and shoes, which were collected afterwards, whereupon all victims, women and children first, were driven into the death chambers. Those too slow or too weak to move quickly were driven on by rifle butts, by whipping and kicking, often by Sauer himself. Many slipped and fell, the next victims pressed forward and stumbled over them. Small children were simply thrown inside. After being filled up to capacity the chambers were hermetically closed and steam [!!!] was let in

[COMMENT: This would be like hermetically sealing a pressure cooker: the building would blow up.-C.P.]

In a few minutes all was over. The Jewish menial workers had to remove the bodies from the platform and to bury them [!] in mass graves. By and by, as new transports arrived, the cemetery grew extending in eastern direction." (XVIII/31, Doc. 3311-PS.) It is estimated that 700,000 Jews were killed at Treblinka. The exact figures are impossible since the Germans kept no records of the Jews deported to this camp. (XVIII/31, Doc. 3311-PS.) Kurt Gerstein, who described the killings at Auschwitz [!!!], also visited Treblinka:

"The next day, Captain Wirth’s car took us to Treblinka, about 75 miles NNE of Warsaw. The installations of this death center differed scarcely from those at Belsec, but they were still larger. There were 8 gas [!] chambers and whole mountains of clothes and underwear about 35-40 meters high [!!!]

[COMMENT: That's over a hundred feet, the height of a five-story building. How did they get the underwear up to the top? With a helicopter?

35 meters = 114 feet 9 and 61/64ths inches.
40 meters = 131 feet 2 and 51/64ths inches.

This passage is actually found on p. 1134 of volume V of the NMT transcript, not volume IV.-C.P.]



Focker-Wulfe 61 - for underpants flights, Treblinka

Then, in our ‘honor’ a banquet was given, attended by all of the employees of the institution. The Oberstürmbannführer Professor Pfannenstiel, MD, Professor Hygiene at the University of Marburg/Lahn, made a speech: ‘Your task is a great duty, a duty so useful and necessary.’ To me alone he talked of this institution in terms of ‘beauty of the task, humane cause,’ and to all of them, ‘looking at the bodies of these Jews one understands the greatness of your good work!’ The dinner in itself was rather simple, but by order of Himmler the employee of this branch received as much as they wanted a far as butter, meat, alcohol, etc. were concerned. When we left we were offered several kilograms of butter and a large number of bottles of liqueur." (XVIII/53, Doc. 1553-PS.)

When the gassings first began, just like any other mechanical operation, the facilities were a little primitive. Instead of the highly efficient, technically perfect concrete, steel, and tile [!-C.P.] gas [!] chambers, two old farm buildings were used at Auschwitz-Birkenau. These two buildings had been constructed by the SS construction office:

"The windows were bricked up, the partitioning walls taken out and a special door put in, which shut the chamber airtight [!]. The space was made to hold three hundred persons. The prisoners had to undress in a barrack situated next to the gas [!] chamber, and were then taken into the gas [!] chamber. After the doors were closed the gas [!] (Zyclon B) was thrown by three SS men through slits [!] which could be shut, into the gas [!] chambers. These SS men wore gas [!] masks and were trained in the use of poison gas." (XXI/26, 27, Doc. NO-2368.)

The regulations prescribed that a physician had to be present at each gassing as a safeguard for the SS personnel! "After 5 minutes the initial loud clamor and groaning had stopped. After a further 25 minutes [!] the doors were opened and the corpses of the dead taken by a detail of CC inmates wearing gas [!] masks to the open. The dental gold was removed under the supervision of a Unterscharführer who had been assigned specially to the job by Dr. Lolling, then the corpses were loaded on lorries, and taken to graves [!] which had been dug [!] by a prisoners’ detail. After the corpses had been buried [!] the gas [!] chambers were cleaned and were then ready again for the next transport. The clothing was collected, brought to the camp and taken over by the stürmbannführer Burger." (XXI/27, Doc. NO-2368.)

Witness Victor Abend testified this procedure was not entirely satisfactory because many of the people were not killed and then it became necessary to throw them into the cremating fire while still alive. The cremating process was also an improvised one. Holes were dug into the ground and filled with wood, gas was poured on the wood, and the bodies then placed in the ensuing conflagration. (Tr. p. 259.)

[COMMENT: They set the fire first, then threw the bodies in. Hot work.-C.P.]

This system not only had various defects, but with the increase in business more up-to- date methods were required. The trend of modernity toward mechanization and assembly line methods was not overlooked even in this most modern of achievements-genocide-a business so novel that a new name had to be coined for it. Genocide, the scientific extermination of a race [!!!]. Friedrich Entrees, camp physician at Auschwitz, continues with his narrative:

"The reason for the new construction of gas [!] chambers and crematories was the increasing number of transports. The new crematories were built in such a manner that the complete process of liquidation could take place in one building. The prisoners were first taken to the dressing rooms and then to the gas [!] chambers. The new gas [!] chambers had properly constructed chutes [!] through which the gas [!] was let in and had a modern ventilation system [!]. Adjacent to the gas [!] chambers the crematories were situated, so that the crematories could carry out the liquidation of the prisoners in an assembly line manner (laufendes Band)." (XXI/27, Doc. NO-2368.)

And then the inevitable hardening of the heart and the callousness of feeling to mass human butchery which in time became as casual as the killing of beasts in an up-to-date abattoir:

"I am of the opinion that those participating in the gassings became a willing tool, under the pressure of the system prevalent in concentration camps, and the impressions made on them during the gassings by which one can explain that such actions were possible at all." (XXI/29, Doc. NO-2368.)

Several of the defendants on trial in this case testified that although they had visited Auschwitz and immediate vicinity, they did not know, nor did they learn anything of the mass exterminations taking place there. Gerhard Wiebeck, a former SS man and so-called war representative, made various trips to Auschwitz where a huge cloud of smoke [!], which could be seen for miles around, hung over the concentration camp. He was told by a member of the Reich criminal police and judicial officers of the concentration camp that, "the gassing of prisoners in Auschwitz was no secret." (XXI/32, Doc. NO-2331.)

Some efforts were made to hide from the doomed inmates what was awaiting them. Artificial trees [!] were erected around the crematories [!] and the gas [!] chambers. But the waiting ones could, nonetheless, hear the screams of their wretched predecessors. So a method the SS were resourceful was devised to conceal the screams. A music camouflage was introduced:

"At that time the children were burned on big piles of wood [!]. The crematories could not work at the time, and therefore, the people were just burned in open fields with those grills [!], and also children were burned among them. Children were crying helplessly and that is why camp administration ordered that an orchestra be made by a hundred inmates, and should play. They played very loud all the time. They played the Blue Danube or Rosamunde; so that even the people in the city of Auschwitz could not hear the screams. Without the orchestra they would have heard the screams of horror; there would have been horrible screams [!]. The people two kilometers from there could even hear these screams [!]; namely, that came from the transport of children. The children were separated from their parents, and then they were put to section III camp. Maybe the number of children was several thousand." (Tr. pp. 88, 89.)

In August 1944 some of the inmates rose in rebellion and destroyed one of the gas [!] chambers. It did not prevent their being gassed, of course, and it brought about a horrifying sequel which, could they have anticipated it, would in itself have stayed their indignant hands. The remaining three gas [!] chambers continued to work, but one day they were being used for adults, and there was on hand a batch of children to be exterminated. The SS, known for their quick-wittedness in solving any trying problem, simply solved this one by burning the children alive [!].

But they were not entirely devoid of feeling in the execution of this rather nasty job:

"When one of these SS people sort of had pity with the children, he took the child and beat the head against the stone first before putting it on the pile of fire and wood so that the child lost consciousness." (Tr. p. 389.)

[COMMENT: No doubt in imitation of the Biblical injunction, "Happy is he who takes their little ones and dashes them against the stones" (137th Psalm).-C.P.]

The general practice, however, was simply to throw the tots into the flames. The procedure was simple:

"They used to put a sheet of wood, then the whole thing was sprinkled with gasoline, then wood again, and gasoline and wood, and gasoline- and then people were placed on there. Thereafter the whole thing was lit." (T/389.)

Several thousand children were burned alive at this time. (T/389.)

As a variation to this entire macabre performance, the assassins now introduced the murder van technique. The victims were gathered in a group and informed they were to be taken to another locality for resettlement. The van drew up and the families were loaded aboard.

"Then the doors were closed and the gas [!] streamed in through the starting of the vehicles. The victims died within 10 to 15 minutes. The cars were then driven to the burial place, where the corpses were taken out and buried." (XVIII/23, Doc. 2620.)

At Mauthausen [!] concentration camp transport vans were fitted up in such a manner that Zyclon B

[COMMENT: We thought it was motor exhaust; or are we mistaken?-C.P.]

could be introduced while the vehicle was in motion. In this way no time was lost. The van picked up prisoners at Mauthausen, passed them on the way to Gusen, where they were unloaded and cremated. At Gusen another load of prisoners was picked up, gassed on the journey back to Mauthausen and there cremated in the crematory awaiting them. (V/180, Doc. 499-PS.)

[COMMENT: This is in contradiction to the claim that a gas chamber or gas chamber(s) (plural)existed at Mauthausen; see my articles ANATOMY OF A NUREMBERG LIAR and NATIONAL ARCHIVES HEAD FAKES CAPTIONS FOR HOAXOCO$T POSTER EXHIBIT.-C.P.]

Germany was fighting a war for its very existence. Leaving apart the origin of the conflict, forgetting for the moment whether from Germany’s point of view the war was just or unjust, the fact remained that after Stalingrad every resource of raw material and blood was needed to save Germany itself from invasion and destruction. By February 1943, it was evident to every person in Germany above the mental age of 10, that Germany was fighting a war for survivorship, fighting on the actual brink of total catastrophe. And yet, while teetering on that edge, the very strength needed to hold on was dissipated in the maniacal execution of a maniacal hate against a people who had in no way declared war against them [!]

[COMMENT: See, for example, JUDEA DECLARES WAR ON GERMANY, Daily Express, March 24, 1933 and many other Zionist "declarations of war". There were enough of them to form the subject matter of a 408-page book, "Jüdische Kriegserklärungen an Deutschland", by Hartmut Stern, available from Ardnt Buchdienst, Postfach 3603, D-24035 KIEL for 50 DM.-C.P.]

The direction of many combat troops sorely needed on the battlefield were diverted on this insane mission of extermination. Incalculable manpower was killed off [!]

[COMMENT: See my article "ANATOMY OF A NUREMBERG LIAR]

property of every description was destroyed every consideration remained unconsidered as against this insanity to wipe out a defenseless race [!].

[COMMENT: We are deeply indebted to Judge Michael A. Musmanno, a Jew and a member of B'nai Brith, for this admission that Jews are a race, and not a religion.-C.P.]

Oswald Pohl, on the witness stand, attempted to defend his position on the Jews by saying that he had not opposed the Jews prior to the war, but when the war came he had to decide between Germany and the Jews, and he chose Germany. But it was not apparent that there was a necessity for such a decision. A German report on indiscriminate Jewish massacring in the Ukraine declared:

"The attitude of the Jewish population was anxious obliging from the beginning. They tried to avoid everything that might displease the German administration. That they hated the German administration and army inwardly goes without saying and cannot be surprising. However, there is no proof that Jewry as a whole or even to a greater part was implicated in acts of sabotage. Surely, there were some terrorists or saboteurs among them just as among the Ukrainians. But it cannot be said that the Jews as such represented a danger to the German armed forces. The output produced by Jews who, of course, were prompted by nothing but the feeling of fear, was satisfactory to the troops and the German administration." (XVIII/18-19, Doc. 3257-PS.)

In March 1945 [!] the extermination program was halted [!]

[COMMENT: We thought it was stopped in the fall of 1944.]

not because conscience long lost in the jungle of greed and arrogance had caught up with the Nazis, but because the labor supply had become so critical [!] that thought had to be given even to keeping alive a few Jews. According to Gluecks, chief of department [division] D of WVHA: "There were still 15,000 Jews still alive." Himmler decided he could employ them also in another capacity. He could "use these people as the trump card in negotiations with Count Bernadotte", which Himmler thought at the time might save his life.

[Printed from the otherwise useless and unworkable Aristarchus NUREMBERG WAR CRIMES TRIALS CD ROM, pp. 81600-81633, available from Aristarchus Knowledge Industries, PO BOX WA 98105, USA or IHR, PO BOX 2739, Newport Beach CA 92659 USA. The judgement quoted above (NMT V) was handed down in August of 1948, although almost nothing it contains was upheld in the judgement of the first Nuremberg Trial (IMT). As a result, 3 men were hanged. To hang and persecute people on the basis of such "evidence" is an injustice. The Hoaxoco$t is the product of a race of people who are mentally ill.-C.P.]

CARLOS W. PORTER

NOV 5, 2000

COMMENT BY GERMAR RUDOLF: 

Your article is mainly nit-picking about incomplete or simply erroneous info given by Holocaust-"survivors" or historians who are all laymen in chemistry. As you might have noticed, I did not do that in my Report, because as a chemist I know that non-chemists cannot distinguish between all these compounds, features, properties, so errors must occur when they open their mouth. That does, however, not prove that their claims are necessarily wrong. Otherwise, every account of a non-chemist addressing chemical things would be a lie, as one simply cannot get it right as a layman

This article of yours is thus a great example of revisionism attacking the other side for really unimportant inconsistencies and errors, and drawing much more general conclusions from it which aren't supported by it. I don't think that your article has many errors, if any [!]. It is an error as such… these errors/inconsistencies prove/disprove nothing.

GERMAR RUDOLF

NOV 7, 2000

REPLY BY CARLOS W. PORTER: 

I am grateful to Mr. Rudolf for taking the time to answer. I believe that Mr. Rudolf's comments are very fair criticism up to a point. It is obvious that Zyklon can kill people, even if you think it is Swiss cheese. The essay is 23 years old and totally obsolete, but it shows how I became a revisionist. 

Essentially, I became a revisionist because of the single sentence "We knew when the people were dead because their screaming stopped." That is an obvious lie, relating to the very basics of the killing operation. After 13 Nuremberg trials, one would imagine that the nature of the murder weapon and circumstances of the crime would have been established; but this is by no means the case, even today. 

Perhaps I am descended from the Borgias, but I am interested in poisons. When I read something that doesn't make sense, I get suspicious. Errors/inconsistencies may prove/disprove nothing, but if you've got enough of them, they add up. See above. Again I thank Mr. Rudolf for taking the trouble to comment.-C.P.] 

CARLOS W. PORTER

NOV 8, 2000 

REPLY FROM R.J. COPELAND

I appreciate you taking the time to reply to my letter. Let me make three final points:

1) Although Zyklon B is not literally crystallised hydrogen cyanide, it seems entirely plausible to me that a layman might describe it as such. It is after all a crystalline solid that contains HCN. In the UK we describe domestic heating devices as radiators, but they do not literally work by radiation.

[COMMENT: That is correct.-C.P.]

2) I agree that you cannot kill someone with 60mg of HCN on the floor 10 feet away, but lets take a closer look at my figure of 1kg (absorbed in 6kg Zyklon). HCN has a relative molecular mass of 27.Therefore: no. mole HCN = 1000/27 = 37 (approx).

One mole of any gas occupies about 0.024 cubic metre, so 1kg of pure HCN gas would occupy about 0.9 cubic metre. If a gas chamber had dimensions 20x10x2 metres, the fraction of the HCN inside would be 0.9/400 = 0.002 (approx) or 2000 parts per million. The Leuchter report quotes 3600ppm in the atmosphere as a fatal concentration, so my rough estimate is of the correct order of magnitude. I agree that evaporation rates would be important, though one could compensate for this by multiplying my suggested 6 kg of Zyklon B several-fold and still have a manageable quantity. None of the orthodox accounts I have read (eg Shirer) claim that death was instantaneous; I would guess at least half an hour.

[COMMENT: The times mentioned range from 2 - 15 minutes, occasionally 20 minutes, perhaps half an hour for the opening of the doors. I agree with you that Zyklon B could kill people in 20 minutes or half an hour. That is correct.-C.P.]

Whatever the truth may be, there can be no doubt that in principle Zyklon B could be used to kill human beings. 

[COMMENT: That is correct. For further details, I suggest you read the various reports by Leuchter, Lüftl, and Rudolf, Arthur Butz, Carlo Mattogno and Jürgen Graf, and the various articles by Robert Faurisson, which started all of this in the late 1970s. The long version of the Rudolf Report will be published early next year. There are many other problems involved. Please see the links or other literature.-C.P.]

I therefore find it hard to understand why it was the impossibility of the chemical reactions which first
convinced you that the Holocaust must have been made up. Did you really approach the question with an open mind?

[COMMENT: I believed it until I read William L. Shirer. What else can I say? I believed the story about Ann Frank until I wondered how you could hide half a house by building a bookcase across a stairway. It took me twenty years to doubt that one; I must be a bit dim.-C.P.]

3) Your suggestion that 20 years ago the Jews didn't even know what Zyklon was will not stand serious scrutiny. The agent is clearly named in Shirer's Rise and Fall (1960) for a start.

YOURS,

R. J. COPELAND

NOV 13, 2000

[COMMENT: It is described as an "amethyst-blue crystal of hydrogen cyanide". Hydrogen cyanide is a colourless liquid. Finding out what Zyklon B really was in the mid-1970s was no easy task. Of course, everyone is wise after the fact. Just the other day I read that Zyklon was a "nerve gas". What really convinced me was Josef Kramer's "confession" ("a bottle... of salts"), the sentence "we knew when the people were dead because their screaming stopped" in Hoess's confession, and the cremation procedures, both in crematory ovens and in the open, which we have not even discussed yet, and, in particular, the footnote about the size of the crematory oven in the German edition of Shirer's book (page 1025, etc. of the Knauer paperback edition, if I recall correctly)

These points are still ENTIRELY VALID. Please note that Zyklon did not come in "bottles".

If you look up "Dresden" in the index to Shirer's book, you will see that is mentioned as a place name only, in a single sentence, on one page. There is no mention of the Dresden bombings. He "forgot" to mention them. See also my translation SAUCKEL'S EXPLOITATION SPEECH. His "extermination" sources are rubbish. See DOCUMENT R-135. So much for Shirer. 

There were 13 Nuremberg Trials. In the judgement to the fifth trial, NMT IV, pp. 1019-1054 of the "Green Series", the Trial of Oswald Pohl et al, the existence of the "steam chambers" and "electrical chambers" was upheld in the judgement (excerpted above). Mass killing with electrical shocks is "possible" too -- far more easily possible than "gassings" with Zyklon B (see the film KING RALPH.) Now the Jews are talking about a "gas chamber at Dachau" again, and even "human soap". Sooner or later, they will have to get it straight. When will that be?-C.P.]

CARLOS W. PORTER

NOV 14, 2000

[The article in question was written in 1978.-C.P.]

See also Letter 37.

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